Fillychan

Fun fact: If I'm right about which people held which roles in it, the guy who founded the Wiki, called Lphemphill, founded the wiki in October or November 2013 and didn't care much about maintaining or expanding on the wiki. In April, he traded the ownership of it to Skundi, and by August it still had a very measle 7 pages. It was first when HareTrinity and me got into the project that things actually began to happen.

• So you can make Snow Queen moved by giving her cupcakes with nationalistic bragging? Sounds fishy.
• Nothing new of real note in the Our Kingdom section.
• But the Seven Secrets have some goodies in store: Cedric now have 15 swords instead of just 1, Rowena and Glory celebrate secret magical celebrations, and biggest of all:
• The ghost of King Victor?! Could this be the first dead Filly in any Filly merch ever?
• If there's 21-23 Princess Fillies, and one or a handful of ornaments and crystals can make its owner mentally satisfied, why does Crystal drag along several chests full of the things?

>>234
>Fun fact
Transfer a parge portion of respect to you two, Exo and Hare. That is some dedicated movement right there!

>So you can make Snow Queen moved by giving her cupcakes with nationalistic bragging? Sounds fishy.
I assume you can also move her in a different direction if she finds out that the bragging is insincere.

>Nothing new of real note in the Our Kingdom section.
That is likely because I've used this exact page of the book to fill out the Kingdom section a long time ago.

>The ghost of King Victor?! Could this be the first dead Filly in any Filly merch ever?
It appears so, although the book never seems to do anything with him besides mentioning on the Secrets page.

>If there's 21-23 Princess Fillies, and one or a handful of ornaments and crystals can make its owner mentally satisfied, why does Crystal drag along several chests full of the things?
There are indeed 21-23 Princess Fillies, but there's also implied to be quite a number of subjects. We never see them, but they seem to be there. They're probably too busy hanging out in forests and on beaches.

Well, actually wikia has several admin ranks, which makes things confusing. I am not really "the owner" - I am one of three owners and none of us can be removed from power. Let me explain.

The founder seems to be a dude called "Brohoofminecraft" with 2 edits. He then immediately appointed Lphemphill as a "bureaucrat". Now, a bureaucrat is a kind of superadmin and cannot be removed, but a bureaucrat can appoint other people as bureaucrats. Well, Lphemphill appointed me as a bureaucrat, and I then made Exo and HareTrinity sysops, which is the admin rank under bureaucrat. The only thing a sysop cannot do that a bureaucrat can is to appoint new bureaucrats and sysops, and remove sysops.

Then there area also moderators, which can be appointed and un-appointed by sysops and has a few less rights than sysops, but Filly Wiki currently has none of those.

This is actually part of the reason why I still want to move the wiki to its own site at some point. I have no idea at all who the original founder dude is, but he still has his bureaucrat rights and there is no way for us to remove them. If he wants to suddenly wreak havoc on the wiki, there is not much we can do to stop it.

>>238
>I have no idea at all who the original founder dude is, but he still has his bureaucrat rights and there is no way for us to remove them. If he wants to suddenly wreak havoc on the wiki, there is not much we can do to stop it.
I've looked into Brohoofminecraft's two (technically three) edits, in case it helps on any matter.

• The 17th of October 2013 shows that he replaced the default and poorly formatted front page (The site had been created ~7 hours prior), with one single line, "Who touched my cupcakes". Not a good sign by itself. This was immidiately followed by an anon adding "Omnomnom." to the end, before one OtakuKitteh returned it back to the default two hours later (Not shown to be a revertion). I credit this one to the super-early days of the fandom, that they were pretty bored, and that there wasn't really a functional site to mess up.
• The 1st of May 2014 show a more shining moment from him, where he reverted an angry troll (Betting on the troll being a typical 4channer)'s main page edits (Visible at http://filly.wikia.com/wiki/Filly_Wiki?diff=prev&oldid=4050), and Brohoof' then put protection onto the main page so that only registered users could edit it.

I may be seeing overly tight connections here, but had Brohoof' wanted to wreck Filly Wiki, he wouldn't have reverted an edit that actually wrecked Filly Wiki.

About the other sentences, I've felt a few moments of disappointment that I as a sysop cannot edit which benefits that users of the different tiers would receive. I was actually worried early on in Zejgar's editing tenure about whether he had the rights to add images to the Wiki.

>>237
>Transfer a parge portion of respect to you two, Exo and Hare. That is some dedicated movement right there!
It felt rewarding to find and write all the info the two of us had learned about Filly. She did a lot of the initial work, such as making pages for virtually every Filly known to man and coding the infoboxes, while I've done more in-depth writing, categorising and followup writing.

>That is likely because I've used this exact page of the book to fill out the Kingdom section a long time ago.
That's true, but additionally, the bios on the English Filly Princess page already mentions nearly all of it in the character bios.

>There are indeed 21-23 Princess Fillies, but there's also implied to be quite a number of subjects. We never see them, but they seem to be there. They're probably too busy hanging out in forests and on beaches.
From how I interpret the Second Phase material, the Filly Kingdom seems to have been targetted as being the land of all Fillys, splitting the vast land up in six pieces with different rulers. Filly Fairy both backed it up and had problems finding itself a setting when considering this, by making the Magical Land placed at a secret location in the Filly Kingdom.

Later brands from Unicorn and forwards, especially Filly Butterfly, vastly contradict this by being separate rulerships and presumably locations, and different roles of great vitality to the Filly world (Elves' tree, Stars' river overflow). When Filly Stars established the Filly World as a thing, it was arguably the final blow to an all-covering Filly Kingdom.

>>239
>I may be seeing overly tight connections here, but had Brohoof' wanted to wreck Filly Wiki, he wouldn't have reverted an edit that actually wrecked Filly Wiki.
Well yeah, of course he has not wanted to wreck the Filly wiki yet, the point is that we have no idea who that is (most likely not someone part of the Filly fandom, as it appears the people on brohoof.com originally made it as a joke) so we can't know that person's future intentions. If he does decide it'd be funny to mess with the wiki, there is really nothing we can do to stop it. That seems pretty terrible and an unnecessary risk to take in my opinion.

>About the other sentences, I've felt a few moments of disappointment that I as a sysop cannot edit which benefits that users of the different tiers would receive. I was actually worried early on in Zejgar's editing tenure about whether he had the rights to add images to the Wiki.
You should be able to edit user rights moderator level and below as a sysop. Try going here: http://filly.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AUserRights

>>239
>Dat OC

>From how I interpret the Second Phase material, the Filly Kingdom seems to have been targetted as being the land of all Fillys, splitting the vast land up in six pieces with different rulers. Filly Fairy both backed it up and had problems finding itself a setting when considering this, by making the Magical Land placed at a secret location in the Filly Kingdom.

>Later brands from Unicorn and forwards, especially Filly Butterfly, vastly contradict this by being separate rulerships and presumably locations, and different roles of great vitality to the Filly world (Elves' tree, Stars' river overflow). When Filly Stars established the Filly World as a thing, it was arguably the final blow to an all-covering Filly Kingdom.

Oh hey, it's the good old "Azeroth vs. Azeroth" argument!

I have to point out that Unicorn does not really contradict anything since it was so carefully made. It's a land high up in the sky that does not affect anything below it or above it, and it may as well be hidden from everything else by thick clouds (Care Bears style). The integrity of Crystalia even allows it to exist in nothingless, alone, on its own, so you can put it anywhere, be it Pre-Unicorn or Post-Unicorn toylines.

I incidentally have the Filly Unicorn book and will get on it when I finish this one.

Elves is where it truly began, yes. I guess Princess is not the splitter of toylines, Elves is. Well, good thing that nothing in the past-Elves continutity has pre-Elves elements in it!

Oh wait.

>>240
>Well yeah, of course he has not wanted to wreck the Filly wiki yet, the point is that we have no idea who that is (most likely not someone part of the Filly fandom, as it appears the people on brohoof.com originally made it as a joke) so we can't know that person's future intentions. If he does decide it'd be funny to mess with the wiki, there is really nothing we can do to stop it. That seems pretty terrible and an unnecessary risk to take in my opinion.
Reblogging from Fillychan-thread: "A very lenghty look through the Brohoof forums ended up at https://www.brohoof.com/forums/topic/45518-filly-dot-com/page-14 (and page 15) and gives me the impression that "Brohoofminecraft" is the Brohoof admin Ratty, who admits to not having done anything with the wiki after he/she 'snagged' the Wikia URL, and after being annoyed by E-mail notices about parasprite edits, he 'handed it over to' Skundi.

I actually think that I could do an E-mail correspondence with Ratty, and am 3-in-4 sure that making a backup would take unnecessarily much time when compared to the one day or so it would take for the E-mail chat to clear up matters. But I do want confirmance from you [HareTrinity] and/or Skundi that I can go ahead with contacting Ratty."

Ratty is enough of a fan of Filly that he has updated the original Filly thread on Brohoof at times of major news, such as the October 2014 trailer and the Filly Stars discovery, and he's a Brohoof forum admin to boot. I've had huge luck with diplomacy between Filly sites before (Skundi back in 2013, as well as Faina Chachina some months ago), so I hope that I am lucky/good enough to repeat the feat with this guy.

>You should be able to edit user rights moderator level and below as a sysop. Try going here:
While that did technically work, it wasn't really that that I was hoping for, but rather the ability to edit the list of which benefits that would befall the different user categories, for instance to allow any logged-in user to add images to the wiki.

>>241
>It's a land high up in the sky that does not affect anything below it or above it, and it may as well be hidden from everything else by thick clouds (Care Bears style).
I know that Skylia is hid by a thick cloud system, but the Ice Unicorn site's front page show what I would describe as background mountains.

But other than that, yes, Crystalia doesn't have any immediate territory overlaps with Filly Kingdom or Magical Land. If Snow Queen's land is pretty big and have mountains, Crystalia could in theory be flying above the north-east end of the Filly Kingdom.

>>242
>that making a backup would take unnecessarily much time
It's literally just clicking a button on the automated tool.

>While that did technically work, it wasn't really that that I was hoping for, but rather the ability to edit the list of which benefits that would befall the different user categories, for instance to allow any logged-in user to add images to the wiki.
Oh. Well, the wiki software supports that, but Wikia restricts us from editing it. That's another thing we'd be able to change if we hosted it ourselves.

>>243
>It's literally just clicking a button on the automated tool.
There's an automated tool?! In that case, I can't find it at the time of writing.

Then I guess you (or me?) can press the button, presuming that it doesn't take more than a few hours and/or stresses the Wikia servers somehow?

>Oh. Well, the wiki software supports that, but Wikia restricts us from editing it. That's another thing we'd be able to change if we hosted it ourselves.
While the Wikia system does highly favour users who are already established on the wiki, I have grown highly accustomed to everything from source-editing, the Wiki Activity list, experimenting with the so-called Wiki Features from time to time, to many of the Maintenance Reports (especially Orphaned Pages), and even unusually good Read More suggestions at the bottom of a page (no clickbait ads, for starters).

You are beginning to appear to be highly keen on moving the Filly Wiki. Is it an amassment of reasons piling up on your end, or is there a few deep or underlying matters behind your wishes?

>>244
>There's an automated tool?! In that case, I can't find it at the time of writing.
It's right here.
http://filly.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Export

Tt's just a quick copy of the article list from http://filly.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:AllPages and pressing the button. I can go ahead and do that right now.

If that isn't sufficient, there are also 3rd party grabbers we could use.

>While the Wikia system does highly favour users who are already established on the wiki, I have grown highly accustomed to everything from source-editing, the Wiki Activity list, experimenting with the so-called Wiki Features from time to time, to many of the Maintenance Reports (especially Orphaned Pages), and even unusually good Read More suggestions at the bottom of a page (no clickbait ads, for starters).
But none of that is specific to Wikia, I'm fairly sure those things are MediaWiki features. Well, except the Wikia ads at the bottom of course.

> Is it an amassment of reasons piling up on your end, or is there a few deep or underlying matters behind your wishes?
Well, besides what I've already talked about, there's a long trend of wikia abusing their wikis when they grow large. This discussion is a good but long read: http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum:Should_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F

There's of course also http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Press_Release:_Teletraan-1_Wikia_moves_to_TFWiki.net

And many others as well.

And the book is finished.
Enjoy! Also by chance let me know if I've screwed up the translation anywhere.

>>250
I added a handful of notes throughout the first 24 pages (not 24 chapters). It piled up a bit at the end of page 7, but other than that the errors were spread apart decently.

I am good enough in proofreading that several people who know me think I could get such a job at a newspaper, though it apparently isn't the case for stuff that I write myself.

Be fearful no longer, Lphemphill (aka Philly) and I (brohoofminecraft) have demoted ourselves on the wiki. I'm not sure why you didn't just post on our Filly thread at brohoof, are we that scary?
I find the idea of defacing a wiki repulsive, but whatever, I guess you guys had no way of knowing our good reputation. I started brohoof and several other successful online communities, and it's a bit annoying being talked about like this.

>>324
>but whatever, I guess you guys had no way of knowing our good reputation.
>and it's a bit annoying being talked about like this.
Okay, I admit that I actually hadn't even heard of the Brohoof forums, nor the Minecraft server, until mid-March this year. I was very chiefly on Ponychan's /oat/ when I was a brony, until early September 2014 when I turned my back on the brony community entirely, and I am frank to admit that Brohoof wasn't mentioned with a single word on that wretched imageboard.

But let it also be known that I have been in support of you ever since I found Brohoof's Filly thread, which was perhaps only a few hours before >>242, and has believed that you are a man who did not want the wiki to be destroyed on a whim.

>I'm not sure why you didn't just post on our Filly thread at brohoof, are we that scary?
I had been hoping to establish some sort of diplomatic ties between the Brohoof Filly fans and the more centrally placed parts of the Filly fandom, sort of like those I once brokered between us and the Russian Club Filly community, so I hope the chances for that aren't completely blown away. I could post and reply to variou stuff in the thread, but the thread seems a slight bit dead since the last post is the 6th of January 2015.

Since I already hold a participating stake in 6 or 7 other Filly chatting communities, I hereby state that I am willing to create a Brohoof account to join the thread, but then, what would there be to talk about in the thread...?

>I started brohoof and several other successful online communities, and it's a bit annoying being talked about like this.
Wait a minute, you started Brohoof? That's new info to me, and is quite an achievement of you!

With my earlier successful record of "Give the other party a lot of leeway" in diplomatic intra-fandom Filly matters, I am ready to go pretty far to brush up any mattters to keep the Filly fandom strong and kicking, including in this case.

I was more referring to post 242, halfway down this thread where someone saw our thread on the brohoof forums, someone could have just made a post there to reach out to us. I even posted about starting the wiki and /r/filly subreddit.
Lphemphill did make a bunch of contributions to the wiki, unlike me. We were only here to help.

I don't have a need to keep the wiki access, since as everyone points out I didn't actually do anything with it, but I hope you guys can remember us positively.

>>326
Somehow it never really struck me that making a post in the Brohoof thread was an option. I was banking all of my contact willpower that I was building up at the time, on that there would be an E-mail contact address on your Brohoof contact page for normal-man-to-admin matters. When it turned out that there wasn't any contact addresses that I could find, that managed to put my contacting plans on hold, which happened some days after >>242.

A few somewhat smaller reasons than that, was that I had also built up a serious grudge against virtually all of the brony fandom, and I also wasn't aware that the Brohoof forums also accepted non-Minecraft-server-players perfectly well. So those were other reasons why I don't think making an account and posting in the thread was really even in our minds at any point. My indoctrination from two chans also led me to believe that a thread that been without posts for more than a month was by all accounts dead and buried and not to be revived.

>but I hope you guys can remember us positively.
Trust me, we will. I remember you with positivity, and while Skundi's recent FuD comment may not look like it at first sight, but citing a line from a Boolean pair example he used, "Is Good Guy" and "Is Informed" → What happened here. It worked out okay!, I believe that he now also thinks that you were great guys after all.

I've actually been worried all day that you at Brohoof wouldn't remember us positively, so I've been nervous and anxious in short bursts, but if you don't have qualms with us, I'm 95% sure that we won't have qualms with you. Rosie promise! (A made-up-on-the-spot alternative to a Pinkie promise)

>>324
After thinking about it a bit, I guess I was indeed being a bit too paranoid. Sorry about that.

I guess I could have researched your online presence to find out what kind of person you are, but some people would consider that to be stalkery...

>>336
>After thinking about it a bit, I guess I was indeed being a bit too paranoid. Sorry about that.
I hope I wasn't too stubborn in labelling you as pretty suspicious of them, at least. I did read your FuD explanation, which mostly makes sense, although I felt that I could rule out "Not good / Is informed" pretty early in the discussion process.

>I guess I could have researched your online presence to find out what kind of person you are, but some people would consider that to be stalkery...
lol