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I like the music in Emma's Wings trailer, but I wish I could say the same about graphics. They look bleak for the most part. Although some moments are luring, especially that multi-planet shot at 2:11. I do like unusual sky phenomena!

Princess Emmy trailer made it seem rather generic, which for me means that it automatically reminds me of Long Live The Queen, "Dark Souls of life sims" (TotalBiscuit).

And now whoah, I didn't know Magiki had screen presence! And it looks nice, too! A pity I couldn't understand a sentence, but the world looks rich.

Lalaloopsy Ponies, well I've seen the movie itself. It is rather tame and sensible, just like everything else Lalaloopsy-related I've seen. Plus it has quite a good song in it.

I would link Pretty Pretty Ponies here, but that would be jesting.

>>385

I could add "Mia and me" (just found some hours ago). Is another euro show (Italy/Germany/Cadana co-production) for girl with fairies, but quite interesting for me unicorns have a strong role. Traditional unicorns too.
Appears quite average stuff, but seems worth to get a watch. If I can watch it better I write down what I think. For now I can say that while the live action scenes are cheesy, the unicorns appear the best part of the show. Or is just me? :D

It has a YT channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-iO7T_pV8wu8wewk6BKm6Q

I guess there is also Netflix - BoJack Horseman - Opening Credits Theme Song (BoJack Horseman): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvIR1oL1vE

I did not agree with more than half of the themes the show dealt with, but it had a good potential, albeit a calculated one. I can vividly imagine the following conversation among the Netflix bosses: "People love My Little Pony, they love Archer, and while they say they love Seinfeld, the 90's humor doesn't catch their attention for long. Congratulations, BoJack Horseman, you're greenlighted!"

>>386
>I like the music in Emma's Wings trailer, but I wish I could say the same about graphics. They look bleak for the most part. Although some moments are luring, especially that multi-planet shot at 2:11. I do like unusual sky phenomena!
I feel that you're right on the graphics, as particularly the faces set off several awkward-design alarms in my head. The flight scene at 2:03 also deserves special mention, as I think I could bet money on that RaichuWizDom could orchestrate a "flying horses" scene better than the movie did.

But the song is easily available at http://www.deezer.com/track/75536893?utm_source=deezer&utm_content=track-75536893&utm_term=692437151_1432247297& amp;utm_medium=web . It adds German female vocals and a few more instruments, creating somewhat of a Euro popdance song...

>I would link Pretty Pretty Ponies here, but that would be jesting.
I think that video author wrote that he/she spent several years on it, so I will be generous and say that he bit over more than he could chew for someone with very little prior animation practice.

>>392
>If I can watch it better I write down what I think.
What channel does Mia & Me air on in Italy? Rai Gulp, Boing, Nickelodeon, K2, or some Mediaset nonsense?

I kind of put Silvio Berlusconi as among the wildest businessmen ever, including in TV. Rupert Murdoch may be even more of a sleazy, filthy rat, but thankfully for absolutely all of mankind, Rupert Murdoch did not decide one day to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

>I think I could bet money on that RaichuWizDom could orchestrate a "flying horses" scene better than the movie did.

D'err, sure, no pressure at all, right? *gulp*

Umm... hmm, does Sofia the First count as a horse show? It doesn't so much have talking animals in it as it does a girl who can talk to animals. There's also some pegasi in it that range from the cartoony style snout to the more naturalistic style (ie, they look like actual horses). The wings on them are huge, too, a lot bigger in proportion to their bodies than anything on FiM, making them look pretty different, especially when the wings are folded to their sides.

Character-wise, I think Minimus is the only horse with any real development. He looks and acts like the stereotypical runt of the litter, but gets over it slowly, the usual feelgood stuff. It is nice to see that the episode he's introduced in doesn't gloss over the fact that success demands hard work, and getting cocky can and will cost you in a real competition. The design's got some neat little details, too, like the feathers on his hooves. http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Minimus Pretty sure the shading's done with some form of cheating, or that they're all shadeless, but it's hard to tell. The eyes are painted on, and the whole world seems unaffected by regular light effects, so... yeah, kind of cheap, but it works with that style, I think.

Just tossing that out there for the list.

Addendum to the last post: it's definitely not shadeless, it's some other sort of setup.

>>385
Even Magiki brand launched their own video, seriously?..
Aside from TLU, I only know cartoons that Youtube user WishFaerie collected. From which, Jewel Riders has unicorns and pegasi talking and doing magic. It even has the Elements (and, notice what happens in the end of last episode, remind much?)

>>407
last episode 13th (end of Season 1)

>>404
>Umm... hmm, does Sofia the First count as a horse show? It doesn't so much have talking animals in it as it does a girl who can talk to animals.
I think it would be a big stretch to call Sofia the First a horse show. Minimus can only show any sort of characterism because Sofia can understand him, and the other pegasuses are pretty much only used for transport wagons. Comparing to Twitter replies I've made to >>392, Mia & Me had its traditional unicorns at the very least serve as major plot points. Sofia the First's traditional pegasuses are, with the exception of the pegasus race episode (more on that later), kind of just there to add more of a fantasy feeling and a quick transportation method. Overall, it's almost (but only almost) as big of a stretch as it'd be to call Doc McStuffins a dragon show or a sheep show.

But despite all my opinions on the matter, I can't feasibly be very strict in a Fillychan thread with many friends of mine, so Sofia the First is more or less good to go.

>It is nice to see that the episode he's introduced in doesn't gloss over the fact that success demands hard work, and getting cocky can and will cost you in a real competition.
Despite the main moral of that episode being something completely different, it does indeed show that cockiness is a bad idea. And as for connecting the pegasuses to the main moral, I did get a feeling that Minimus also wasn't liked by the other pegasuses for trying to be a royal horse and/or a race horse. That, or my memory is randomly making up stuff right now.

I have watched most of ST1st's first 20 episodes, but anything after that went bust for me mostly due to huge scheduling issues on Disney Junior Nordics-Netherlands(?).

>Pretty sure the shading's done with some form of cheating,(...), but it's hard to tell. The eyes are painted on, and the whole world seems unaffected by regular light effects, so... yeah, kind of cheap, but it works with that style, I think.
From my perception of ST1st, it seemed that applying a soft comfortable colour palette was ranked much higher than to actually apply the shadows correctly. Considering the importance of soft colours in animation, I'd say they can get away with it.

On the topic of animation colours: Do anyone else than me find Star Wars Rebels' colour palettes horrendous? I've only ever seen 4 colours in it, brown, grey-brown, beige-orange-brown, and blue.

>>407
>Even Magiki brand launched their own video, seriously?..
On the occasions where Italy makes toy brands, they also love to give them some animated presence. A cartoon about Puppy In My Pocket even got an almost all-European distribution.

>Aside from TLU, I only know cartoons that Youtube user WishFaerie collected. From which, Jewel Riders has unicorns and pegasi talking and doing magic.
I only know of WishFaerie from her old MLP 2000's videos. Taking a look at her upload of Episode 13 Part 1, it was perhaps a bit too 1990's for my very modern taste buds.

>>410
What I mean is that in episode 13 part 3, thorns grow everywhere, then by using Sun, Moon and Heart stones (which look like marks on the bottom of the tree in FIM S4E01) they take what looks like Elements of Harmony, which fall into a chest, which then shoots a rainbow beam, which destroys all the thorns. All of that happened later in FIM. Can't help but think that makes FiM's Starswirl related to Merlin from King Arthur tales, and Equestria to Camelot. (I also suspect that Discord is Starswirl, for some reason. Because he knows about Tree of Harmony, and, according to A.K. Rogers' Diary of Two Sisters, Starswirl was who knew about it)

>>411
To be fair, and this is coming from someone who hasn't seen anything substantial of S5 (accidental spoilers notwithstanding), MLP:FiM does borrow liberally from its source materials, and so do other shows. It's the shared heritage that's showing, I guess.

The Tree of Harmony looks and feels a lot like World Tree from World of Warcraft, for example, and they both take after Yggdrasil from Norse mythology. The imagery of thorny vines overrunning a kingdom isn't that new, either, just look at Sleeping Beauty, Disney version or otherwise.

Star Swirl the Bearded probably is based on Merlin: a wizard with good foresight guiding future royalty towards their destiny. Kinda like Gandalf in that respect. Heck, the current version of Spike is suspiciously similar to the titular character of 'The Dragon Who Wasn't, Or Was He?', a Dutch film from 1983. And that probably has its roots in some folklore, too, maybe Ring of the Niebelungs.

I'm sure there's an ancient faerie tale that inspired the Tribbles/Scribbles/Parasprites too, somewhere.

On a more mundane level, FiM has always been pretty Golden Age Disney-esque (or Crappy Age Disney-esque, depending on where you stand in the fandom), and Disney has always been something to copy for other franchises. That can be good, or hilariously bad and predictable if kept up too long. You can tell it's Disney-inspired because there's absent/implied dead parents in it ^^. I wouldn't be surprised if someone died in MLP's Season 5, even. (If there's any bets going on about that, Discord has the highest chance to get axed).

But anyway, enough about those magical talking horses, let's talk about magical talking horses.

I'll concede Sofia's not a horse show, I just figured it might get an honourable mention or something. I have seen the Minimus episode a few times, it's enjoyable even in the dub. The obvious moral is a little... ham-fisted, I'll admit, but I've gotten into the habit of overthinking things like that. I really liked James' character there, hlping out his sister despite the mockery.

I find it a bit odd you don't hear the name Epona more often, in general. I mean, it's a horse goddess, she was apparently popular enough to be accepted by the Romans for worship, it's a fine sounding name but it's only really used in a videogame. Weird.



>On the topic of animation colours: Do anyone else than me find Star Wars Rebels' colour palettes horrendous? I've only ever seen 4 colours in it, brown, grey-brown, beige-orange-brown, and blue.
Hmm, can't say I've followed it, because of dumb dubs and just sheer silliness, but err... maybe. I distinctly recall seeing a pink and girly Boba Fett a couple of times, though, because apparently that's a thing in Star Wars now.

I'm trying to think of other horse franchises, but the only thing that comes to mind is a reindeer one, so... That's me run dry for now.

>>412
>On a more mundane level, FiM has always been pretty Golden Age Disney-esque (or Crappy Age Disney-esque, depending on where you stand in the fandom),
As I was quite the Disney fan a few years back, I consider their Shining Golden Age to be between 2003 and ~2012, with everything from Kim Possible and Enchanted, via Disney Fairies and Bolt, to Split/Second and Fish Hooks. Everyone who claim that their golden age was in the early 90's are completely wrong and hold disgusting opinions. (I've pretty much snapped tonight moodwise.)

>I'm sure there's an ancient faerie tale that inspired the Tribbles/Scribbles/Parasprites too, somewhere.
Stories of guests who are considered nice at first but who then eat you out of the house seem pretty common, but I cannot remember any that involved tiny round flying creatures. Old fairytales are oddly enough not something I'm noticeably skilled in.

>Hmm, can't say I've followed it, because of dumb dubs and just sheer silliness, but err... maybe.
I've never really followed it either. I've seen perhaps 10 minutes' worth combined of both ads and coming across Disney XD broadcasts randomly, but it has perhaps the ugliest design among contemporary cartoons that I know of, only rivalled by Clarence.

>Emma's Wings: A Bella Sara Tale (Bella Sara)

Seems a The Sims machinina, a '90 3d animation... ouch.
For the plot, hard tell something witout no dialogues.

>Princess Emmy and Her Horses - The Movie (Princess Emmy?)

Taking out that who appear the fantasy version of the "Prince of Bel-Air", the animation and the setting appear enjoyable. Seems a worth watch.

>Il nuovo cartone dei Magiki! (Magiki)

That stuff is around Italy from some times, but I did not buy a piece of it for now.

The plot isn't bright: the "bad princess" steal a magic "candy" becouse envy (why? Becouse is the bad girl, of course. The story don't give her a reason, she see a party and say "just blow it!"), the sky rumble and later the other tell her that the party was for her. Then the dolphin find the magical candy.
That wasn't nothing wrong in a plain plot, if only was not the empty concept "the bad girl do bad things becouse she is the bad girl".

The horses are there becouse... they are horsing around I guess. They do nothing just helping/attend the party.

The setting is the stereotypical girl stuff put togheter without a particular central concept behind it. Forgettable.

>Sheriff Callie - Sparky's Lucky Day - Music Video (Sheriff Callie's Wild West)

Nice. :) The average quality of Disney stuff generally is quite good, albeit rigid on some things.

>kleo the misfit unicorn theme song (...Whatever this is)

Never saw this when I was kid, but the "allucinogen level" in this thing is high enough to make me want to see the episodes. :D

>Lalaloopsy Ponies: The Big Show Trailer | Lalaloopsy (Lalaloopsy)

The animation is good, but nothing save me to feel the botton eye somewhat creepy to see. :D

>I guess there is also Netflix - BoJack Horseman - Opening Credits Theme Song (BoJack Horseman)

... what? :3

>I would link Pretty Pretty Ponies here, but that would be jesting.

That thing is a masterpiece of crappyness. :)

>>398

>What channel does Mia & Me air on in Italy? Rai Gulp, Boing, Nickelodeon, K2, or some Mediaset nonsense?

I haven't checked if is in airing for now and on what channel, but being a RAI production (the national TV broadcaster) should be on Rai Yoyo or Rai Gulp.

>I kind of put Silvio Berlusconi as among the wildest businessmen ever, including in TV. Rupert Murdoch may be even more of a sleazy, filthy rat, but thankfully for absolutely all of mankind, Rupert Murdoch did not decide one day to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

Allow me a political rant here: for me the entire political left wing of my country should be jailed and they should toss the key. They are responsable to many fraudulent bankruptcy of italian firms, nepotism, and corruption on many levels; and they have no sense of self-criticism, becouse as one journalist here make some satirical comment abouth them, they get a complaint or is marked as "fascist", "racist" or other insults just becouse he have criticised their politic. Nobody touch them becouse they are the left wing, and they are behind a perverted system that protect them. Berlusconi is a Right Wing politician. What many of us Italian think really is that the Left used the justice system as a tool to take him down: he is not the only who build an empire with wild and unscrupulous pratices here, but none of them was investigated intensively like him.

Don't ask me why my people allow this. Maybe is true that we don't believe in nothing, and care less.

> From which, Jewel Riders has unicorns and pegasi talking and doing magic. It even has the Elements (and, notice what happens in the end of last episode, remind much?)

A yes, I know that. Is an average cartoon of '90 era, in good and bad, but quite enjoyable.

>>412
>Star Swirl the Bearded probably is based on Merlin: a wizard with good foresight guiding future royalty towards their destiny.

Star Swirl has defined by the FiM regist exactly like "Merlin in Equestria". His role in the Journal of the Two Sister was a reflection of Merlin, from the fact was the wizard to put on the throne the Sisters, he's their teacher, adviser, and friend.
Amy Roger depict a very warm and kind character, that really care for the young princesses, something that is missing between Twilight Sparkle and Celestia in the cartoon. I wonder if Luna became crazy becouse she fell the loss of Starswirl (he's never died, but I think he's disappeared some time after the end of the Journal): he was one who really believe in her.

Isn't clear if he is really Discord. Is probable that Starswirls appear in front to Twilight soon or later in a future episodes.
But is possible that the two characters are the same. Both seems control in some ways the time and space, know very well the Tree of Harmony and the behaviour of the Mane 6. Discord knows really too much, and the twist that the hero of Twilight was one of her worse enemies would be so shocking that the poor girl would be left really shaken. But I really doubt: FiM writers lacks of the complexity of turn out a complex stuff of this kind, and lacks of skill to handle well looking of incomplete is the worldbuilding.

I think that is an interesting and perverse idea, becouse really flip upside-down the meaning that anything Discord did all times, and would be a twist that I really can like, but makes also the FiM setting so mess that a pig bathing in the mud would be more clean.

>On a more mundane level, FiM has always been pretty Golden Age Disney-esque (or Crappy Age Disney-esque, depending on where you stand in the fandom), and Disney has always been something to copy for other franchises.

All art is a imitative activity that take existing things as source (the real world or other existing stories). The skill is to rework the source in a new manner.
And that is the "trouble" of FiM. While in some things is good, the overall style is not enough sophisticate to take his sources and create a completely new form. Is very easy track the original font.
But let be frank: I don't really think that this is a worry of FiM staff. When they have done their job, they are ok, no matter if the Bronies really believe that they are doing an artistical masterpiece.

>>419
>Seems a The Sims machinina, a '90 3d animation... ouch.
Yes, pretty much. The graphics were not anywhere near up to their best.

>For the plot, hard tell something witout no dialogues.
What little I could deduce plotwise, reminded me far too strongly of Lego Elves (Flat teen girl gets a necklace from her dead heritage, which then sends her to a fantasy world that she has to venture around in to get home). If I'm not screwing up largely, Lego and Bella Sara both originated in Denmark, leading me to wonder what they could possibly be teaching at animation classes at Danish universities. But then, Filly is/was Danish too...

>The plot isn't bright: the "bad princess" steal a magic "candy" becouse envy (why? Becouse is the bad girl, of course. The story don't give her a reason, she see a party and say "just blow it!")
>That wasn't nothing wrong in a plain plot, if only was not the empty concept "the bad girl do bad things becouse she is the bad girl".
>The horses are there becouse... they are horsing around I guess. They do nothing just helping/attend the party.
Wow. That may perhaps be even less of a substantial plot than what I could figure out without understanding all that much of the dialogue.

>The animation is good, but nothing save me to feel the botton eye somewhat creepy to see. :D
Then you can think of it pretty much as my mom did when she came across the regular Lalaloopsy show: "A cute version of Coraline". :D

>I haven't checked if is in airing for now and on what channel, but being a RAI production (the national TV broadcaster) should be on Rai Yoyo or Rai Gulp.
I think it was a 2013 production, but a Season 2 is soon underway. If you have an online or phone-app TV guide, you could check out the guides for childrens' channels. Not just for Mia & Me, but for new cartoons in general.

>Allow me a political rant here: (...)
Political rants are perfectly allowed here! What could I possibly say to all that... I guess the leftists from what little I remember of them, are more of the "rigid evil businessmen" kind of politician that Northern European connects more to the US senate, while Berlusconi is in a "flamboyant evil businessmen" category, so there's overall not much that differ in their political schemes, but the former is much harder to catch blue-handed in personal scandals.

And trust me, it has reached my ears that throughout the 90's and 00's, Berlusconi was the only man who could keep a government going for more than 2 years straight. I've never thought much of why the other guys failed, but your descriptions of rigid personal interests could explain most of it.

And a wondering question from me: What's your (or other Italians') view on Matteo Renzi? From what material I have come across on him, he was elected prime minister since Italians had grown tired of the whole entirety of the aging politicians on both left and right, and is enough reform-focusing that he can screw over both rich and ordinary people to give the laws and state systems a refresh (Some of his attempts to ease entry into the job market comes to mind).

Hmm nice. :)

>>515
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Back in 2009, at a time where I hadn't seen a single life sign of My Little Pony in four years, and when Horseland ran before Pokémon Diamond and Pearl on Saturday mornings, Horseland felt very generic to me, as it was very similar to every other horse show I could receive on Nordic telly in that a lot of focus was on the ties between the horse and its rider. And back then, I perceived Horseland as being heavy on teen romances, but looking at this episode now, I can't remember how I even reached that conclusion.

It seems heavy on morals, and heavy on friendship, both of them so much that I struggled to keep my attention on it (skipping parts of the ep haphazardly). But if any other episodes have that mythical or epical (not necessarily epic quality-wise) flair over them, perhpas I can no longer speak as negatively of it as I've done in the past five years.

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I'll add the webseries
>Melvin Est Magique
...Since I just now watched it and it's pretty fun (aimed at an older audience though).

Lloyd the Rockin' Unicorn is another webseries worth checking out! It's got a very Bojack-esque unicorn who gets fed up of his life (he's basically He-man) and moves to the real world to get a real job, but then his life catches up with him. It got pretty epic before being abandoned forever!

Again, not aimed at kids, but cool if you're fine with that.

>>385
>Emma's Wings: A Bella Sara Tale
Agreeing with everyone that the quality's off-putting...
>Princess Emmy and Her Horses
Some gorgeous scenes, but very slow animation that's lacking expression... Shame, a bit snappier and I'd definitely be up for this! Maybe on 2* speed.
>Il nuovo cartone dei Magiki!
Magiki has a show?!? How bizarre! Good for them, and their equines look better than they do in toy-form
>Lalaloopsy Ponies: The Big Show Trailer
I almost like it, but they're just a bit creepy. Seems to be one of those shows that assumes little kids need slow animation, too.
>Sheriff Callie - Sparky's Lucky Day
You can fly, Dumbo! race, Sparky!
>kleo the misfit unicorn
Ohh, I watched an ep of this in my own search for more horsey stuff to watch! It was... Not so great. Still, I'm glad it exists.

>>392
I watched some of this and it seemed fine! Again, it's one I'd rather watch on 2* speed, but it's also one I'd rather watch in HD.

>>404
I've still not checked out STF, though I do mean to...

>>407
>Jewel Riders
Just watched the one linked by Greyfeather over here >>748 and it was pretty fun! Very 80s with its crazy setting and accidental humour (badly animated segments, poor dialogue, etc), but I'm pretty partial to that side of 80s stuff.

A talking owl named Archimedes in this setting, though? Seems dangerously close to Disney's Sword in the Stone!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y33G5uU6SJM
Watched this one too and one of their villains looks a lot like original-Catra. It's pretty She-Ra in general... Oh, and their fairy designs are scary! Floating, spiky, dress-creatures. Weird!

I like the dweasels. They're really daft, but that's very ferret.

>>410
>On the topic of animation colours: Do anyone else than me find Star Wars Rebels' colour palettes horrendous? I've only ever seen 4 colours in it, brown, grey-brown, beige-orange-brown, and blue.
[Googles a trailer] Oh yeah, that's pretty bad. Everything else is much too dark to make those colours look good.

>>412
>'The Dragon Who Wasn't, Or Was He?', a Dutch film from 1983
He looks a LOT like Denver the Dinosaur! I haven't seen the film, but it looks like it has a nice style to it.

>I'm sure there's an ancient faerie tale that inspired the Tribbles/Scribbles/Parasprites too, somewhere.
You can probably add Gremlins to the list, but I've not found the fairy tale versions yet, and I read weird old fairy tales in my spare time.

> the only thing that comes to mind is a reindeer one
I know you don't mean Elliot the Littlest Reindeer, but that show's horse animation was ON POINT. The plot was pretty dumb, but I enjoyed the animation and characters.

>>515
>Horseland
[Watches] I like the animation and horse designs, but I don't like the riding-school setting. It's pretty limiting, plus it always wants to focus on the kids rather than the horses.

At least the horses talk, I'm not sure the one in the Spirit: Riding Free series do, and Dreamworks really shouldn't have released the first season of that when it looked so bad! At least the animation got better.